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Eren Taylan Saba's avatar

Christmas is a Christian holiday as its meaning, but it basically incorporates older winter traditions from Roman, European, and even Central Asian cultures. I found this reading unmistakably Eurocentric to be honest. Many symbols (trees, lights, feasting, gift-giving) come from ancient pre-Christian winter rituals. Just the meaning got fit in the same 'season' with Christ's birth.

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Gav Cross: Storyteller's avatar

True True. But I always thought that with the ancient roots into the solstice and the festivals and practices already around the world that that the argument is it was shifted away from the 21st to the 25th. An assimilation of thousands of years of evident stone records that this was a time of festival and marking of the stellar moment. Of the turn back to the light.

“Oh! What are you doing in this time of the year? You don’t need to stop doing that. Why don’t you join up your party with what we do too”?

And then over the centuries the dominant 25th becomes the norm. It is fascinating that even after 2000 years we have these folk memories and deeply carved evidence point points for something thousands of years older than the Nativity.

It was my understanding that early Christian festivals were linked to as you say the deaths of Saints and key people. Seems an incredible coincidence that 300 years after the fact Emperor’s and bishops decided that it coincided with all those other big festivals of the world!

A wonderful world of Folklore and story!

Time is inexorable.

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